An Examination of renewal in Particular Baptist life during the period 1760-1815:

and reflection on their significance for renewal in contemporary Baptist experience.

Whilst the renewal of the Particular Baptists was indeed the ‘result of a complex matrix of factors’, this essay attempts to identify some of the more significant influences on renewal.¹ Reflection and suggested application to contemporary Baptist experience is provided prior to the conclusion. It is hoped that through the application of these influences to the contemporary situation, the ‘profound rejuvenation and transformation’ that took place during 1760-1815, could be experienced once again.² Not only reviving a denomination, but also resulting in the Gospel impacting thousands of lives around the world. Whilst these influences can be studied, and their principles applied; the work of God through his Holy Spirit, at work inside the lives and communities of believers, needs recognition as the factor that actually brought about this renewal.³ It is also, therefore, God alone that will renew our Baptist family and missional impact once again.

Striking similarities exist between the context of contemporary Baptist life and that of the Particular Baptists in the eighteenth century.⁴ These contextual parallels can be seen both externally to the church and internally. The decline, both numerically and spiritually, that the Particular Baptists of the early eighteenth century faced was reversed during the period 1760-1815 with an almost 150% increase between 1752 and 1798.⁵ Can lessons from this reversal of numerical decline and renewal spiritually, be adopted and applied to the contemporary Baptist experience? An experience similar to 1700-1750 in which there are some small signs of growth both spiritually and numerically, but the general trajectory is decline.⁶

Context of decline

By 1760 the Particular Baptists in Britain had been in numerical decline for a number of decades. Although speaking of spiritual decline is somewhat more subjective, there is interconnection between the two and the spiritual state of the denomination wasn’t healthy.⁷ Although the Act of Toleration (1689) had brought certain freedoms to the Baptists, many restrictions were still in force. Society was undergoing constant change with the beginnings of the Industrial Revolution and with it massive economic upheaval, political uncertainty and seismic shifts in culture, influenced greatly by the Enlightenment and the desire for reason as the primary source of authority.⁸ High-Calvinism, with a strong belief in limited atonement, dominated Particular Baptist theology and made the church very much like a ‘walled garden’ (Songs. 4:12). Champions like John Brine (1703- 1765) and John Gill (1697-1771), assisted in the preservation of orthodox Christological and Trinitarian view points within Particular Baptist life. This took place during a time in the early eighteenth century where conventional biblical teaching was under pressure.⁹ Their strength of argument and zeal however, contributed to the consolidation of high Calvinism and a more insular stance that spread across the denomination. Whilst leaders would reject the high-Calvinist stance of Antinomianism, the church suffered scandals linked to the behaviour of many congregants.¹⁰ Despite the Evangelical influences of the Great Awakening impacting other denominations in Britain, Particular Baptist churches generally had little evangelistic engagement; with Gill, whose teaching was extremely influential, knowing ‘of no scriptural passages ‘that exhort and command all men, all the individuals of human nature, to repent, and believe in Christ for salvation.’¹¹ The theological beliefs and biblical emphases of the Particular Baptists, within the context of societal change, meant that the church experienced rapid and severe decline.¹²

The foundations of renewal

The Evangelical Revival had a powerful impact on religious life in Britain from the 1730s onwards, with churches numerically and spiritually being revived.¹³ Evangelicalism began influencing many denominations, injecting life, resulting in both spiritual and numerical renewal. Whilst Particular Baptist’s during this first half of the eighteenth century had John Gill as their dominant theological voice; it was mainly the ministry of the American Jonathan Edwards (1703-1758) that provided the theological and scriptural basis for the Evangelical Revival. His sermons and books not only brought renewal to many during his lifetime, but also after his death. A Humble Attempt (1748), for example, was highly influential in the ministry of the Northamptonshire Association and their initial prayer gatherings, which included Andrew Fuller, William Carey and John Sutcliffe. John Wesley and George Whitefield embodied evangelical revival in their ministries, basing much of what they taught on what Bebbington describes as ‘conversionism’, ‘crucicentrism’, ‘biblicism’ and ‘activism’.¹⁴ This ‘evangelical quadrilateral’ formed the basis of much of the theological renewal and subsequent ministerial renewal that took place in religious life. During the initial stages of Evangelicalism spreading across Britain, the Particular Baptists seemingly ‘stood aloof from this powerful revivifying force on the religious scene’.¹⁵ Whilst Gill recognised the need for the lost to be challenged to repent and believe, he had strong reservations around the Arminian language that Wesley used.¹⁶

Movements of change

The number of Particular Baptist churches in 1773 exceeded that of 1715, suggesting at least some significant renewal, despite many commentators recognising the renewal to really take off in the 1770s.¹⁷ This is especially significant since by 1750 the numbers had reduced below the 1715 figure. This meant that from the 1770s onwards, the theological, associational and missional renewal; and the strengthening of theological training, were all built upon the platform of the ‘transfusion of life’ that the Evangelical Revival was bringing.¹⁸ It is these four areas of renewal, plus the revitalisation of prayer, that the next section of the paper explores.¹⁹

Theological renewal

Theological renewal was the biggest aspect that was influenced within the Particular Baptist denomination during this period. As previously stated, biblical orthodoxy was guarded and therefore, any sustained renewal and development of the denomination would need to also stand up against rigorous examination and debate. The Northamptonshire Association was central to providing this rigour and challenge.²⁰ Robert Hall Sr. struck right at the heart of high Calvinism in his preaching and publications, providing scriptural arguments for all who choose to repent to do so; not limited to the elect. Hall Sr.’s work was then extended by Andrew Fuller who in 1785 published The Gospel Worthy of All Acceptation; ‘the most influential text in weaning the majority of Particular Baptists away from high Calvinism’.²¹ His answer to the ‘Modern Question’, surpassed earlier attempts and set out clear rebuttal of the Calvinistic doctrine of limited atonement and the ‘inner persuasion’ that the elect supposedly had.²² It was replaced with clear Scriptural argument to God’s desire being for all who ‘hear the Gospel preached or published, to respond to Jesus Christ.’²³ The theological renewal was not merely around soteriology, but also around God’s sovereignty and human responsibility, shifting again from high-Calvinistic beliefs towards a more moderate stance. Whilst the shift in soteriology brought missiological change, the development of a more balanced (but not Arminian) view of free will challenged anti-nominalist behaviour, bringing about aspects of spiritual renewal.

Preaching retained a prominent place in Baptist gatherings and it was through sermons that the theological changes began impacting the congregations of churches. Ministers increasingly attempted to be deeply rooted in Scripture (‘biblicism’) and show keen understanding of society. Robert Hall Jr. was one such minister; a powerful doctrinal preacher, rooted firmly in societal events and contemporary context.²⁴ Surely this pastor-public-theologian role was also a contributing factor to renewal numerically and spiritually, increasing possibilities for connection and impact to be made between Scripture and society.

Missional renewal

The dramatic soteriological shift that came through ‘moderated Calvinism’ or ‘Fullerism’ as it became known, naturally led to a change in missiological understanding and activity amongst Particular Baptists.²⁵ No longer were they going to be insular like ‘walled gardens’, but would actively seek the evangelisation of the nations of the world and the revival of the church within the UK. Evangelical principles of ‘conversionism’ and ‘activism’ drove ministers into not simply calling for a personal response to the cross of Christ, but also seeking out those that needed to hear the Gospel. The Call to Prayer (1784) issued by John Sutcliff through the Northamptonshire Association, called for a monthly prayer for ‘revival of religion around the world’.²⁶ This renewal of prayer expressed the theological shift that was taking place and went on to become a significant factor in the establishment of what would become the Baptist Missionary Society in 1792.²⁷ Particular Baptists began sending missionaries to see Gospel propagation among the Heathen of the world, with William Carey being both one of the founders and also its first missionary.

In 1797, the Baptist Home Missionary Society was established promoting and supporting the evangelisation of England and Wales, through itinerant preachers and planting new churches.

Renewal in Relationships

The geographical isolation of the large number of Baptist causes and underdeveloped transport system, had not helped in the unity and extent of inter-connectedness across the country.²⁸ This, together with the traditional Baptist emphasis on independence of the gathered congregation, only compounded the ineffectiveness of the few regional associations that were present. During this period of renewal however, Association life regained purpose and direction. Where successful (like the Northamptonshire Association), they became hotbeds for theological development and debate, powerful prayer gatherings and a relationship focused on missional engagement not merely sustaining the status quo. It was this deepening of association life, the expansion of itinerant preachers and the creation of a mission at home fund that ‘also produced a change of emphasis on what it meant to be a Baptist minister.’²⁹ Challenging a concept that was static and insular towards a more dynamic and outward focus. Furthermore, itinerant ministry and association life was made easier during the later stages of the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries, through improvements in the transport systems across the country.³⁰

The renewal of regional Associations and increased unity around missional engagement, went on to pave the way for a national denominational body with the Baptist Union being established in 1812. Whilst this establishment was warmly received by some, concern was expressed by others (including Fuller).³¹

Relational renewal had taken place, with a fresh energy to be united in mission and not just maintenance ministry. Much of this flowed out of theological renewal that had and was taking place, built on the foundations of the Evangelical Revival.

Renewal of Training

For any renewal of a denomination to continue into future generations, there needs to be a renewal of the systems and structures of training.³² Up until 1765, Bristol Baptist Academy was ‘the sole Baptist denominational training institution in the world.’³³ Apart from them, there had been little formal training for Calvinistic Baptist ministers. Now, appropriately trained, more moderate, evangelistically-minded pastors were entering Particular Baptist Churches around the country. Since from their outset the Academy ‘consistently sought to inculcate a moderate Calvinism, a love for the Scriptures and a commitment to a missional piety’, their graduates were seeing renewal of the denomination.³⁴

John Fawcett (1740-1817), an often overlooked champion of Particular Baptist renewal, had been converted under Whitefield and became an advocate for the strengthening of theological education for ministers. He was convinced that ‘learning and religion revived together.’³⁵ He was central to the establishment of what would become Northern College, and also mentored a number who went on to play highly influential roles in continued renewal of the denomination.³⁶ Particular Baptist ministers in training would need (according to Caleb Evans, founder of the Bristol Baptist Academy), to be ‘able, evangelical, lively, zealous’; reflecting a genuine ‘Baptist biblicalism’.³⁷

Renewal of united Prayer

Prayer and more specifically united prayer, could be incorporated under a missional or associational renewal. However, the significance of Sutcliff’s Call to Prayer in addition to the clear impact of the increased involvement in prayer of Particular Baptists, leaders and congregation members, deserves highlighting. Although there had been previous calls for prayer for renewal earlier in the eighteenth century (e.g. Western Association 1714, 1726), the context, as highlighted, was different. These previous calls were for the inner renewal of the churches and denomination. Prayer now had a different theological and missional drive behind it. No longer was prayer simply for the elect of God to come to him and be renewed, but it was broadened to all who hear the Gospel of Jesus Christ to respond. Through this prayer renewal with missional and Evangelical focus, the spirituality of Particular Baptists was revived.

Robert Hall Jr. shared in his sermon entitled The Success of Missions (1819), not only how crucial pray was, is and always will be in seeking the conversion and transformation of life and community, but also how it is engaging with the heart of God.³⁸ Fervent prayer and uniting to pray for missional success, involves humility. It assumes seeking God’s face, his forgiveness and leading. Surely this undergirded much of the renewal that took place. Echoes of 2 Chron. 7:14. Hall Jr. writes ‘Never is a mission more likely to prosper, than when it is begun in the spirit of ardent prayer and supplication’ for ‘Prayer touches the only thing that can possibly ensure success.’³⁹ Renewal of God’s church and its missional engagement, is dependent upon ‘the outpouring of the Spirit of God,’ and his people’s openness and willingness to be led by him through prayer.⁴⁰

Contemporary Baptist Experience

As the introduction tells us, there exist strong parallels between the contemporary context and context of the eighteenth century Particular Baptists. Whilst application of the contributors to renewal cannot all fully be provided here, some key questions are posed.

Theological

Whilst ‘Fullerism’ brought theological change (which led to missional renewal, fervency and vision), seeking an answer to today’s ‘Modern Question’ is crucial for renewal of unity and direction within contemporary Baptist experience. Would the contemporary ‘Modern Question’ amongst Baptists be around biblical interpretation and authority?⁴¹ Not just concerned with the authority of Scripture or contemporary hermeneutics, but a confidence in Scripture itself; confident in the message and means of truth and grace that comes through the pages of the Bible? Would it not be this increase in confidence that would lead to increased zeal in evangelism and missional engagement?

‘Biblicalism’ was injected into the denomination through the influences of the Evangelical Revival. Is this injection required once more for denominational renewal? It seems that some of the champions of contemporary Baptist life are providing a strong step away from an evangelical approach, advocating a more liberal understanding of scripture, authority and authenticity.⁴² Who are the equivalent theologians defending evangelical orthodoxy today?

Theological Education

For us to see similar renewal to the Particular Baptists of 1760-1815, there is a need for a return to the ‘Baptist biblicalism’, in addition to other aspects of evangelicalism, within our colleges.⁴³ Raising up a new generation of ministers formed for ministry not only around core competencies, ‘marks of ministry’ and techniques, but people who are rooted in Scripture, allowing God to be revealed and inspire and develop them.⁴⁴ Whilst the ‘Ignite Report’ related to a new call for training improvements and development is good and shows understanding of different routes into ministry, it fails to clearly state any evangelical orthodoxy underpinning the future of Baptist theological education.

Andrew Pratt suggests that ‘renewal should be consistent with Baptist heritage and should preserve Baptist’s unique expression of Protestant Christianity. […,] maintain the Baptist priority of freedom over orthodoxy.’⁴⁵ Whilst his focus of argument is theological renewal in the Southern Baptists of America; it is assumed that a similar sentiment would be present with attempts at theological and theological education renewal with the current British Baptist context. The Particular Baptist renewal of 1760-1815 maintained their Baptist heritage of freedom, whilst going through rigorous theological renewal. Could this be the pathway that is needed in our current climate? Emerging out of the theological renewal was a credo-unity based on clear theological debate and view point. There was theological, hermeneutical and missional unity at the centre of their association, rather than unity based on Baptist principles of individual liberty.

Missional, Relational and Prayer

For any of these aspects to be renewed there needs to be a call to open and honest, humble prayer together. United prayer to see a furtherance of God’s kingdom and not our own preferred ecclesiological view. Seeking his face together, which in turn thrusts us into missional activity together. Whilst a renewal could be maintained temporarily through charismatic individuals and their powerful preaching and dynamic leadership; for a lasting movement to take place, a true renewal, a movement of missional prayer is required. Could this take place in our current associational structures? Again, who is God raising up as the heroes of renewal in the contemporary setting?

Conclusion

Where we put our theological and biblical emphasis, will impact our views and ministry. The Particular Baptists of the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries celebrated (although not without personal challenge and cost) renewal in numerous areas. Each aspect of renewal was strongly influenced by the Evangelical Revival, which is recognised as a clear move of God. If we are to see similar renewal within our contemporary setting, not only of our churches, but also of our society, then surely we need to be open to the influences of Evangelicalism and increased confidence in the message of the Gospel as portrayed in Scripture. We need to seek to be ‘able ministers’ hoping,

“…under a divine blessing, to see religion revive and lift up its drooping head, and the knowledge of God, of Christ and divine things, spread and cover the face of the earth, as the waters cover the seas…Let us then cheerfully contribute all that is in our power to forward their delightful approach; leaving the event to HIM, of whom, and through whom, and to whom belongs ALL THE GLORY!”⁴⁶

It was this vision of and for renewal that the Particular Baptists sought after. We desperately need this same vision today.

Peter Morden, Offering Christ to the World (Carlisle: Paternoster, 2003) p186
Michael Haykin, ‘Baptist Identity: A View from the Eighteenth Century’, EQ, 67:2 (1995)
Cross, p.xi-xii
Peter Morden, ‘Challenge and Change and Baptist Life’, Baptist Times, 13/09/2017 https://www.baptist.org.uk/Articles/505872/Challenge_and_change.aspx [accessed 8th January 2018] See also Anthony Cross, Useful Learning: Neglected Means of Grace in the Reception of the Evangelical Revival among English Baptists (Eugene: Pickwick, 2017) pp.xi-xx
Approximately 150 Particular Baptist churches in 1752 increasing to 369 by 1798 with continued growth through to well into the nineteenth century. Morden, ‘Challenge and Change’
Peter Morden, ‘Continuity and change: Particular Baptists in the ‘Long Eighteenth Century (1689-1815)’, ICJ 15:1 (2016) p.71
Morden, ‘Continuity’ p.72
Morden, ‘Challenge’
Cross, p.4
Cross, p.5
Cited in Haykin, ‘The Baptist Identity’, p.139
A.S. Langley, ‘Baptist Ministers in England about 1750 A.D.’ in 6 Transactions of the Baptist Historical Society (1918-1919) pp.132-162
Peter Morden, The Life and Thought of Andrew Fuller (1754-1815) (Milton Keynes: Paternoster, 2015) p.26
David Bebbington, Evangelicalism in Modern Britain (London: Unwin Hyman, 1989) pp.2-3
Morden, Fuller p.26 and p.37
M.A.G. Haykin, The Life and Thought of John Gill (1697-1791), (Leiden: Brill, 1997) p.4
T.J. Nettles, ‘John Gill and the Evangelical Awakening’ in Haykin, The Life and Thought of John Gill pp131-170 17 Jeremy Thomas, The Nation’s Gospel (London: Wilberforce Publications, 2017) p.386
Morden, ‘Continuity’ p94
Four main movements for change or important ‘means of grace’ (Cross citing William Carey p.xi.) are often identified; namely theological, missional, training and association renewal. The significance of prayer, and specifically, united prayer, as both a biblical and God-directed source of renewal however cannot be ignored. Although Cross recognises that the study of the means of revival is usually focused on ‘the work of the Spirit, prayer, bible study, preaching and evangelism’ (pp. xi-xii) he chooses to highlight four other ‘neglected means of grace’. Guarding against ‘neglecting’ his aforementioned ‘means of grace’ for revival, prayer and reliance on the Holy Spirit needs to be highlighted as something that both undergirded the other aspects of renewal and was, with fresh insight and passion, renewed itself.
Morden, ‘Continuity’ p.83
Morden, ‘Continuity’ p.85
Peter Morden, Offering Christ to the World, (Carlisle: Paternoster, 2003) p.24
Roger Hayden, English Baptist History. 2nd ed, (Didcot: BUGB, 2005) p.108 and Andrew Fuller, The Complete Works, pp.xxix-xxx cited in Hayden, p.122
Hayden, p129
Hayden, p123
Hayden, p.121
Hayden, p121
Morden, Andrew Fuller p23
Hayden, p.131
Dan Bogart, ‘The Transport Revolution in Industrializing Britain: A Survey’ (2013) https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-Transport-Revolution-in-Industrializing-BritaiBogart/ea9a8e4b198c9f760c1b78dff7bb5c4a6d295591?tab=abstract [accessed 8th January 2018]
Morden, ‘Continuity’ p.93
Hendrick Kraemer, ‘Permanent Renewal or Temporary Revival?’, Foundations 4:2 (1961) p.152
David Bebbington, Baptists Through the Centuries (Waco: Baylor University Press, 2010) p75
Morden, ‘Continuity’, p.69
Cross, p.223
E.g. John Sutcliff, William Ward and John Foster (see Cross, pp234-243, 264-267
Cross, p102-103
Robert Hall Jr. ‘The Success of Missions depends on the Agency of the Holy Spirit’ cited in Cross p.391
Hall Jr. p234
Hall Jr. p219
E.g. Stephen Holmes and others, ‘The Courage to be a Baptist’, December 2016, www.somethingtodeclare.org.uk/statement.html [accessed 22nd April 2017]
Steve Chalke, A Matter of Integrity (2013)
Survey of Baptist College websites provides little evidence for evangelicalism and the Bebbington quadrilateral being central to the vision and values of three fifths of British Baptist Colleges. [websites accessed 8th January 2018]
Cross, p.xvi
Andrew Pratt, ‘A New Question in Baptist History: Seeking Theological Renewal in the 1990s’, Perspectives in Religious Studies, 20:3 (1993) p.270
Hugh Evans, The Able Minister, (1773) p.44

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An Examination of renewal in Particular Baptist life during the period 1760-1815 and reflection on their significance for renewal in contemporary Baptist experience.